Episode 25: Grieving the Youngest Losses

“I try to think of that feeling instead of using the word grief, thinking of it as really intense love.”

-Kristen Vandivier

Episode Summary

In memory of Artemis Vandivier, lost 7/11/21

Like a night sky of stars, the memory of babies who lost life as it began shines in the hearts of countless mothers and fathers. Yet it’s not talked about much and for so many parents, grief walks with them wherever they go.

This is a particularly personal episode as Kristen and Isabel discuss the very recent stillbirth of Kristen’s baby Artemis. They explore all the facets of grief and then describe the unique experience of living through miscarriage and infant loss.

If you have ever experienced a great loss, we hope this episode brings comfort and healing.

Highlights

 

3:41 Vedic viewpoint on grief

8:14 Grief as intense love

 

10:00 The experience of grief as a meditator

 

10:30 Massive change of expectation

 

11:08 Attachment to grief

 

12:14 Unique situation of miscarriage and stillbirth, nothing tangible

14:27 The person you are before and after loss, splitting life into BC and AD 

  

17:00 Loss puts you on a new path  

21:00 Grief as catharsis

 

25:00 Connection to all mothers and fathers who have lost a baby

28:38 Nobody talks about miscarriage

32:22 With losing a preborn baby, there is no ritual

35:32 The Artemis Garden info

36:10 Loss of your vision of the future

37:38 Every tragedy is wrapped in blessings and love

38:52 the loss was always what needed to happen

40:58 Our only job as parents is to love them, they come however they need to come

 

42:00 Story of Krishna and his mother Yashoda

  

43:29 Motherhood, a power so strong it made the universe

45:00 At birth and death you look into the face of God

 

Jai Guru Deva